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Aug 17,2008

My last two sessions on the Day Ticket lake were when it was really hot so I had a little go on the surface.  To cut a long story short on the first, Sunday afternoon session I managed to catch 5 carp and Gary Dear, one of the regular Bayeswater anglers also had 2 fish on my rods.  I was only there for about 3 hours as I had to go and do an interview for Carp Addict magazine.  Once I had them feeding well the bites were almost instant which proves that it is worth the effort to get baits on them.  I must admit it was a bit frustrating to start with as the wind kept changing all the while.  I had to spod the free offerings well out to ensure there was always plenty of feed in the open water.
 
The second session was a bit easier on the following Monday evening.  The wind was blowing lightly of the point swim, peg 13 so I tipped some pellet in the margins for the wind to pick up and catapulted some a bit further out.  They was straight on it and I had the first one on before I could get the second rod out.  I ended up with 8 carp to mid doubles in about 2 hours.  They was still munching the pellet when I left but my floater gear doesn't involve an head torch and I had a job to see what I was doing.  The wind was also chopping and changing a bit as well and I had to keep alternating between pegs 12 and 13 to keep a good line to my controllers. 
 

Gary Dear with a fish on my rod
 

Gary playing his second fish "of the top"
 
Looking out of the window today I wonder if it's worth mentioning anything about surface fishing at all.  The thing is though if you turn up at Bayeswater when its hot it's quiet easy to catch them of the top.  So it's always a good idea to be prepared.
 
There is several good floater methods that will catch carp but here is my favourite way, I caught on it last year and twice this year in just a few hours fishing so it's worth a go and its easy.
 
I've always found floater fishing to frustrating with large, chum mixer type baits, what with the seagulls and ducks there is on most waters.  I use the smallest floating course fish pellets I can find instead,  the wildlife tend to leave it alone or at least don't come and clean the whole lot up in one go like they do the chummy's.
 
The only down-side to using small 4mm floating pellet is they are not so easy to get out.  Also if the wind is always changing it is hard to see where they are unless the fish are mopping them up, but that can also be a problem with larger feed.
 
The feeding methods I use with the 3-4mm pellets are easy enough.  If the wind is directly behind me I simply tip some pellet in the margins and catapult some out at maximum distance with a few pouch full's in between.  This gives a good feeding line and its easy to keep this line by simply adding to the margins, the wind does the rest.  This is all it took on my second session above.
 
If the wind is all over the place or I want to feed further out then I either catapult PVA mesh bags of pellet out or spod the pellet out.  I started the first session above catapulting PVA mesh bags but got them going better spodding.  If you decide to spod the pellet out then 2 floater rods is better, then you can fish the spod spill area and the longer range area where the spod lands.  If possible it pays to spod up-wind because the fish tend to get on it after it has drifted a few metres.  I find the bigger the spod the better then you only have to fill it about two thirds full to reduce the spill a bit.
 

Catapult,PVA and spod to feed the small pellet
 
Spodding is the best method in my mind, its cheaper and spreads the pellet more.  I have observed that nearly all the pellet (that doesn't spill out) is discharged as the spod impacts on the surface but I still give the spod a few Sharpe jags before retrieving it.  I've tried taping some of the holes up on the spod but don't see that it makes any difference.  Floating pellet isn't heavy so it spods out easy in the bigger spods.
 

Nash controller
 
As I said there is a lot of different methods and rigs you can use for floater fishing but I prefer the Nash bolt machines.  As the name suggests they are a self hooking set up which makes it easier to detect the bites.  My eyes are good but I do struggle to see critically balanced hookbaits at 40 to 100 metres plus so its much easier to fish bolt machine style.  It also makes fishing 2 rods, feeding and observing more relaxing instead of holding a rod, concentrating on hitting the slightest movement on the lighter conventional controllers.  I use the middle size Bolt Machine Distance controller as it will cast plenty far enough and offers a little bit more distance than the smaller version.  The Bolt Machine Extreme is to big and heavy for Bayeswater and is designed for fishing very long range with leaders on vast reservoirs.
 
My main line choice is 20lb fireline, a floating braid, but especially if there is a cross wind normal mono is a better choice.  I only use the braid because it is such a good casting line and it is on the two rods I use for floater fishing.  Mono will sink and in effect hold the controller in position although it also "drags" the controller in a few metres, whereas my braid floats but really "drags" the controller round down wind, into the path of feeding fish but sometimes to fast to get a take.  Sometimes the braid is best and sometimes it is a pain, still that's life.
 

The terminal tackle I use
 
Hooklink wise I prefer fluoro carbon but also use Drennan Double strength.  12lb is about right, although in the main body of the lake I have used 6lb before.  The flouro carbon is heavier than water and needs to be lightly greased from the controller to within about 20-30cm of the hook.  If you don't grease it the hook bait will end up to near the controller.  I use the sweat around my ears and nose to grease the hook link.  I have used vasaline before but it ends up to thick giving the effect of much thicker, stronger line and can spook the fish.  If you do use flouro carbon don't use the knot-less knot as this weakens the flouro by about a third, 12lb will end up as 8lb.  The Palamar knot is the strongest knot for flouro carbon.
 
I use about 8ft hooklinks but because of the hook knot slipping and the hair rig sometimes getting twisted I re-tie the hook a lot and end up with as short as 4ft hooklinks sometimes. 8ft hooklinks are tricky to cast so I lay the hook and some of the hooklink on the floor to cast.  To stop the grass and weeds catching the hooklink the un-hooking mat acts as a good base to rest the hook on.
 

The shorter hair rig method
 
Hair rig wise, it depends on the day, fishing 2 rods allows a bit of experimentation.  Long hairs work well most of the time but on the Sunday session I did better on short hairs, as in the picture.  I'm sure that plastic baits with clever weights which hold the hook out of the water work but I seem to catch plenty without using plastic.
 
Hook bait wise I use a variety of chopped down 15 or 20mm pop-ups and single 10mm pop-ups, usually our Scopex Squid in the yellow colour although I've caught them on all types of colours including purple.  They do have preferences so try a few different baits.  I find that the cut down 15 or 20mm baits are excellent for making critically balanced baits that only just hold the size 10 hook up to sit on the surface. This helps the bait to be sucked in better, hooking the fish better.
 
That's about it for my surface fishing technique, next time it's hot try it.
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