RULES AND REASON
We don’t like to be always pushing a rule book at people and rely on our anglers to have some common sense and respect for the lakes and fellow anglers. 99% of the anglers who fish Bayeswater are very nice people; most of the rules had to be written for the 1% that just doesn’t get it. If you do see people acting inappropriately please inform a bailiff.
Below are some obvious rules, many that the farmer insists we state due to past experiences on his lake.
Not all our members are experienced anglers so where I feel it needs explaining I have done, hence the title “Rules and Reasons”.
The main gate must be locked and the bar put over every time, the farmer has correctly complained about this several times. The only time not to lock it is if both gates are fully open and wedged open when they are obviously in use for farm vehicles. Do not leave the gate open for other anglers or guests to come in.
The gates on the otter fencing must be closed especially if you’re the last person to leave.
All anglers must have a valid ID card or be accompanied by an ID cardholder.
This is for the security of the lakes and land. Please remember your ID card every time as you might be asked to show it to the farmer.
Day tickets are available on the bank from official bailiffs.
1. No fish to be removed from the fishery or transferred into the fishery.
Our fish seem to be very healthy and we wouldn’t want to risk disease or any other species in the lakes.
2. All anglers must use suitable landing net’s, weigh slings, unhooking mats, forceps, disgorgers and antiseptic type fish care equipment for safe fish treatment on the bank for all species.
Please also make sure nets and slings have no holes or sharp areas and wet slings and mats before placing fish on them. Also try to bring them on site dry to lessen the chance of parasite infection from other waters.
3. Please treat the fish with the utmost care.
I have often seen fish dragged up the bank in a landing net, lift them of the ground please. I also witness to many people weighing them before photographing them that is pointless double handling. I’m a firm believer that the less stress they go through the sooner they get back feeding and behaving like carp again. Please treat all the Bayeswater fish you catch with the utmost care as if they are the most delicate, precious thing you have handled. Check everything for sharp edges, take watches of, etc.
2 people can make the operation smoother, please ask for help, the angler next door will always like a look at the fish anyway.
The best procedure when you catch a fish is these simple rules.
a) Leave the fish in the net in the water for a few minutes so it can get its breath back after the fight. (Imagine running a mile and then having your head stuck in a bucket of water), that must be the same for a fish lifted out of the water to soon.
b) Make your mind up while it’s still in the water if you want to have a photo or weigh the fish. If you are doing then get everything ready while the fish is still in the water. Ask a friend or the nearest angler if they will help.
c) Wet slings and un-hooking mats and make sure the mat is on level ground so the fish can’t slide of easily.
d) Lift the fish out of the water ensuring the fins are not trapped underneath the weight of the fish so no fins are broken and place the fish on the un-hooking mat softly.
e) Remove the hook being careful not to tangle the hook link on the fins or on the gill cover. If you can, lift the fish slightly and remove the net, ask a friend or onlooker to help.
Net mesh is a slime remover, some anglers like to lift the fish, still in the net with the aid of a weigh sling, I have no problem with this but it is a bit tricky so make your own mind up here for the benefit of the fish.
f) Take your photos now, keeping the fish as low as possible and being prepared to lower the fish back onto the mat if it starts to struggle.
g) Photos done now slip it into the weigh sling and check the weight. It’s now in the best position to be easily returned. Weigh slings are the best way to transport fish back to the water.
If you use a weigh sling with bars please be careful of the bars and also carry the carp in a way it cant slide backwards in the sling, one of the syndicate 40’s had its tail broken in one of these types of sling, some have square corners, make sure the head is tilted down to avoid slipping in the sling to never break a tail.
h) Hold the fish as far as possible in deep enough water so it can easily swim out of the weigh sling. Let water into the sling to help.
Bayeswater carp are the best-conditioned carp of any fishery; please try to keep it this way by respecting each and every one of them.
4. Swims must be kept tidy at all times.
There won’t be any kit inspections but be especially aware of light rubbish such as crisp and sweet wrappers blowing in the wind. I have never been able to walk around the lakes without finding small items of rubbish. Usually I can’t even fill my back pocket but if I didn’t pick it up then it would build up. I know a lot of anglers pick up other anglers rubbish for me, thanks for that but it would be 100% better not to have to.
5. Your fishing zone is halfway between you and the next angler, left and right and half way across if applicable.
If you have empty swims near you by all means you can cast into them but you must be prepared to reel in should someone want to fish there.
We’ve had occasions where anglers definitely have cast or bait boated beyond half way across to the neighbouring angler. If you have this happen to you let the angler know they are fishing in your water, if they persist let a bailiff know.
6. All litter to be removed from the premises, every last bit, including cigarette stubs, tea bags, sweet wrappers or any small items please.
If you find other anglers rubbish please pick it up and inform a bailiff so we can try to catch the culprit. Anyone purposefully leaving rubbish will be banned. Be aware that Steve bailiffs with his eyes wide open and we have banned an angler for leaving rubbish and will do so again should we have to. We have had rubbish left in the toilets, hidden in the wood chip pile, left in the barrows and thrown in the farmer’s field. It will not be tolerated, there are plenty of day ticket lakes full of rubbish, it embarrasses us knowing its anglers leaving it, we are better than that surely.
7. No child under the age of 16 years is allowed to fish without adult supervision.
The adult must be over 21, this is an insurance stipulation.
8. No fires or barbecues.
The no barbecue rule is part of the lease agreement.
9. No noise nuisance radios, shouting, unsociable or disruptive behaviour etc.
Fishing should be peaceful and hassle free.
10. No dogs, as we share the lake with a shooting syndicate.
11. No vegetation to be cut back, especially reeds and trees.
We’ll cut the reeds back as part of our general maintenance.
11. No trespassing in surrounding farmland or woods.
12. All anglers must be in possession of a valid national rod-fishing license.
One licence covers 2 rods, to fish 3 or 4 rods you require two licences. Bayeswater allows the use of up to 4 rods, why wouldn’t we. I just don’t get the 2 or 3 rod rules on some lakes.
13. Proof will be required for concessions i.e. juniors disabled and OAP’s. Juniors under
12. fishing in the same swim as an adult are free of charge; 12-16 are half price as are ladies over 60 and men over 65.
17. All vehicles must not exceed 10 mph throughout the estate.
People moan about the track being pot holed but if you drive slowly it isn’t so bad.
18. All vehicles to be parked only in the fishing car park or on the track furthest side away from the lakes. NO DRIVING ROUND TO SWIMS.
Please also park sensibly; often the car park is full due to large gaps between cars. Also on the rubbish front please be aware that lose rubbish can be blown out of your car when you get out, I often have to pick bits and bobs up, some even have the names of the litter dropper, be aware.
19. Strictly no vehicles on any grass. Parked or driven.
This is especially so on the boot sale field, especially if the ground is wet. It’s almost a capital offence if the farmer catches you.
The only exception to this is on boot sale days. If you come to the lake when there is a boot sale on go left of Boss Hogg’s, following the boot sale route. When stopped at the boot sale pay booth just tell them you’re going to the fishing lakes, you’ll be let through, carefully drive on the roadways through the boot sale car park to the end and return to the normal track to the lake. Please drive slow and careful, pedestrians don’t always look what they are doing and regularly walk in front of cars, we’ve had complaints of anglers driving to fast through the boot sale, it isn’t safe to do so, please don’t.
20. All vehicle activity to be kept to a minimum after 10 pm and before 5 am.
If you do arrive or leave in the dark please don’t full beam your lights towards the farm house.
21. Random spot checks will be carried out 24 hours a day by the bailiffs. Any person found not abiding by the rules, would be asked to leave and banned by the fishery.
If you see any angler leaving rubbish, using leaders or acting inappropriately please report this to a bailiff, we want well looked after fish and no rubbish don’t we?.
22. Lost keys or ID cards will be replaced at a cost of £5.
Remember, we might know you but if the farmer asks for an ID card and you don’t have one you could be asked to leave.
23. Bait boats are allowed but must be kept inside your own fishing area.
Be aware that bait boats drift so as soon as you drop your bait on a back or cross wind bring the boat into shore. Some anglers have moaned about bait boats and then I’ve seen these anglers cast further than their swim boundaries. Bait boats and rods/casting can be abused; please don’t exceed your boundaries.
23. No leaders of any kind on all Bayeswater lakes.
There have been too many instances of fish towing leaders. It isn’t just lead core but all leaders are not safe if used in-correctly. We can’t rig check all rods so have had to stop leader use. Good rig tubing, especially the tungsten types seem to work better than leaders on the day ticket lake.
24. Be aware of the overhead pylon cables.
If you cast over them slowly winch the rig to the cable and it will often flip over safely. Should you get tangled just hold the spool. Point the rod at the cable and walk back slowly, pulling for a break. We often find long lengths of line hanging from the cables, if your line breaks a long way away from the cable odds are your line was either damaged or perished. Please regularly check your line we don’t want fish towing long lengths.
25. No fishing in between pegs 8 and 9 under the cables or in the sanctuary area clearly marked at the shallows.
Always be cautious of overhead cables, they are life threatening. The sanctuary at the shallows end is to protect the carp from being dragged onto the shallow gravel during the fight. If you see there is someone fishing the shallows please don’t enter the sanctuary area, it scares their fish.
26. No one is allowed on the stock pond without permission from Steve, Gary or the farmer except to transfer small fish out of the fished lakes.
We are feeding the stock fish hard for future Bayeswater stock. Now that the lakes fish are at the weights they are we only intend to re-stock with good sized own grown fish.
27. This is optional on the day ticket lake but to keep the lake as a specimen water we want to remove smaller carp and tench. Any carp under 12 pound and tench under 5 pound can be put in the stock pond but please let us know.
We net the day ticket lake to try to remove small fish but it’s a hard lake to net successfully so every little helps.
28. Do not leave the toilets in a mess; other people have to use them. The toilets are cleaned every week, usually on a Wednesday. If they don’t seem to have been cleaned let us know please.
- Always pump the handle to wet the trap door before use.
- Do your business.
- Pump the handle until the trap door is clear.
- Do not put anything down the toilet it isn’t designed to take
- Do not leave rubbish bags in the toilet
- If the toilet hire people leave bin liners in there only put empty toilet rolls in the liners, no other rubbish that you should be taking home.
I’ve had to clean the toilet out, scraping the trap door clean to often so have some of our anglers, it isn’t rocket science, if you don’t care if you leave it in a mess and cant follow the simple method of using a porter-loo just stay at home, you obviously don’t care about the next person, we don’t want you.
29. Both lakes have predators, the syndicate pike and perch, the day ticket lake perch only. There is NO live bait fishing for either unless you have permission from a bailiff. If you want to bait fish seriously for the perch on the day ticket and pike and perch on the syndicate you have to prove to us that you know how. Lure fishing is allowed but please look after all fish caught extra carefully.
Both these species are very fragile and will perish if deep hooked or handled wrong. They are no where near as robust as carp and cannot handle excessive handling. No one is allowed to sit away from the rods or leave the swim if they are fishing for these species on any method without reeling in first. EA laws say we can’t be more than 10 metres away from the rods, generally unless you’re fishing near snags your OK with carp but with predator fishing, especially perch you want the rods at arms length maximum and even then you have to hit bites quick, deep hooked and over stressed pike and perch die easy, they are fragile and these days scarce at decent weights.
30. No going inside the stock pond fence, please do not feed them.
The stock pond fish are fed hard and we need to see them a bit to monitor their growth and health. If there is to much foot traffic on the bank and to much left over bait thrown in it makes growing these fish on more d